'Western' women,...no, not cowgirls

[buzorro]

A Muslim Convert's Take on US Women & Society

http://www.henrymakow.com/one_of_my_female_friends.html

Would enjoy reading comments on this article...

Here are the first two accompanying the article (spelling is as posted):

1)  I have to say I truly respect the Muslim distain and revulsion for "the sexualizaton" of children and women in the western world and elsewhere. It's a moral sickness. As a Christian, I have definite disagreements with certain Muslim doctrines and beliefs, particularly their version of the redemptive work of Christ, the crucifixion and the resurrection (which is the very heart of The Gospel Message).

But Muslims are right and righteous in their criticisms of vast promiscuity and immorality that is now rampant in the West (and most of the world also) today. I thought the article made some very valid points. thanks for posting it.

2) Thanks for the work you are doing...most of the people I know are blind to what is going on
in the world, and when it is brought to their attention they "this would never be allowed to happen in this country". However it is and a small few on my friends see it as well

And last, but not least:

Christian and Islamic civilization have some fundamental pillars in common, modesty,
matrimony and respect for God. The Catholic Church is being under heavy attack for almost 500 years, now is the turn of the muslims...Why ? Because they are in the path of the New World Order.

Marriage allowed almost every man and woman to procriate and form families. Now, with the divorce and alimony industry and with goverment incentives for single moms, everything payed by the tax payers, the pill, women go after a few powerfull, exciting men, which have harens. Thus, women have illegitimate children, grow them without a father (unless they settle down with a normal men - beta), and so the cycle perpetuates with impunity and applause by feminists. Of course they are angry and with bad mood, everything is wrong ! They cannot even imagine that with their jobs, they are taking a job of a man that will not have conditions to raise a family (but for selfish people, this is just a small detail).

Checking Roissy's blog (Citizen Renegade), "The Futurist", Roger Devlin, etc, etc, etc, at
links I found on this site, I could cross information (politics, conspiracy, social issues, gender, etc), and I agree even more with this bold post and with the author of this site,
THIS IS NOT BY CHANCE, WE ARE UNDER ATTACK, THIS IS SOCIAL ENGINEERING !!! THEY WANT US TO GO BACK TO PRE-CIVILIZATION, US GOYM !!!

All real Christians, Jews, and truthful people should read what this Muslim have to say !!!

[Westville Girl]

I will preface my opinion by saying I am a fairly old-fashioned kinda gal....I've been single a long time but I'm not promiscuous, and now that I've found a swell guy I plan on marryin' him....I'm in a rock band,  I wear skippy tops,  but you'll never catch me with "headlights" showing lol or my fanny hangin' out....I feel like its my natural tendency as a woman to take care of my home, and my children are first in my life; I love my domestic life, and what I see as my role as the Queen Mother of that house.....I feel its a blessed, divine role that we as women share - if we're smart enough to realize it...

That being said, I read that article, understand where you and the Musliim lady are coming from.....But I do NOT understand how you say you are "under attack"....Yeah, the "big 3" religions:  Christianity, Islam, Judaism - are constantly "under attack" anytime other people engage in behavior you don't approve of!  No one has EVER told any of you that YOU have to become promiscuous or gay or lazy or tattooed or drunk....But as people decide, with their GOD-GIVEN free will, that they wish to engage in behavior you don't approve of, that somehow means YOU are being persecuted in some way....Why are you so incapable of ignoring that which you do not approve of? I mean, if groups of liberal women were coming to your house and harassing you and burning bras in your yard because you refused to go see "Sex in the City", I could understand the victim mentality....But how are you under attack because someone made a movie about some ditzy women who like shoes and sex?

I am a very spiritual person, and morally conservative in my own life,  and I do not find it at all difficult to adhere devoutly to my beliefs in a society that I, like you and the Muslim lady, find morally offensive on a pretty regular basis....Why can I do it without feeling like I am personally under attack, and people of the above-mentioned faiths have this persecution complex, to the extent of crying for (and usually getting) laws to protect themselves?

The answer is because you can never legislate the GOD-GIVEN free will out of people, and they are not all gonna choose to behave according to your rules.  It's been true forever.

[Mr. Buzorro]

While I appreciate your post, I should point out that I did not express my personal opinion in the lead post...at all.  The 'comments' were copy & pasted from the link that I provided.  They were from readers of the article linked to...

That being said, may I ask a question?  You stated that: '...I love my domestic life, and what I see as my role as the Queen Mother of that house.....I feel its a blessed, divine role that we as women share - if we're smart enough to realize it...'  You also said earlier that you were soon to be married.  The question: Being 'a fairly old-fashioned kinda gal,' can I assume that you will 'share your throne' with your husband?

But to get back on the subject, it seems you also misunderstood, IMHO, the Muslim woman's meaning when she wrote that, 'As Muslims, we should not reject any society or any technologies, but embrace them while still staying modest and true to our faith and in remembrance of Allah, the Creator of everything.  P.S.: True Christians and Jews don't even do those things. Unfortunately, we are under attack!'  I interpreted that as pointing out the hypocrisy of what she calls, 'True Christians and Jews' collectively attacking those of the Islamic faith (the false 'war on terror').  Of course, in my opinion, 'true' Christians and Jews are, or at least should strive to be, peace loving.  It would've made that part of her message clearer if she had labeled them, 'Christians and Jews in name only.'

In that same article she makes the generalization, although she didn't 'qualify' it as such, that:  'People in western society are oversexed, overworked, overweight, everything is in excess- alcohol, food, sex---EVERYTHING!
More and more people are watching pornography, committing **** and other crimes, cheating on their partners; being promiscuous... should I go on?'

By chance, the website's author, Henry Makow, Ph. D., posted this article yesterday:

The Hidden Agenda Behind Pornography

**** is so freely available on the Internet, I can't believe anyone pays for it...

I suspect **** receives a hidden subsidy from the Illuminati so it can be free...

**** serves a vital function for the Illuminati. We know they want to enslave us using debt, mind control and false flag terrorism. But we are not aware they have a deliberate program to enslave us spiritually using sex...

We don't like to admit it but I'm afraid "sexual liberation" was a ruse.

Monogamy and family are wholesome and life affirming. Sex is consecrated for marriage. Its purpose is to bond husband and wife and to provide a wholesome environment for children.

"Sexual liberation" is the crucial first step to Satanism.

 http://www.henrymakow.com/the_hidden_agenda_behind_porno.html

Very interesting comments follow this article also...

Again, thanks for 'sharing,' WG...  Sharing is caring...

[Westville Girl]

Will reply more later, but just new you'd have an intelligent follow-up Buzz :-)

[Westville Girl]

Gotcha - I thought some of the opinions expressed were your own opinions....

As for myself, I just love to play "devil's advocate"  when it comes to the separation of church and state....

As far as "sharing my throne" goes, I absolutely wouldn't have it any other way!  But its taken me YEARS to find a man I respect enough to do so lol, so I remained unmarried for many years....

My overall comment was not directed at you so much as the general idea that I constantly hear Christians talk about their values being under attack, as though anyone who makes a choice they don't approve of does so with the express intent of undermining Christianity....

Don't know much about the history of the Catholic church, other than the fact that they've been responsible for a lot of killing in the name of God; but I do know the main reason they are under attack right now is because they have a long history of sexually abusing children....

The Illuminati, or Satan for that matter (if you believe in such an entity) can only enslave those who choose enslavement....We are all free to choose....

[buzorro]

You have my respect for 'waiting' for the right man.  There seems to be too many nowadays (women mostly, but some men too) who must not 'respect' themselves enough (insecure?) and grab onto whatever they can, whenever they can.

You don't believe Christian values (values which are basically shared by most religions) are under attack?  Would you concede that the 'values' spoken of mean the same as 'morals?'  You wouldn't have any problem with your daughter becoming the next 'Lady GaGa?'  Or your son becoming addicted to ****?  Or either becoming crackheads?  Lot's of people do succumb to the pressures, or 'attacks,' on their 'moral fiber.'  You say that you're constant vigilance over their personal lives wouldn't allow that?  We hope you're right.

Admittedly, a lot of church-goers are hypocrites, and a lot of non-church-goers lead good, christian-like lives.  The media, especially, appeals to the 'darker nature' of man.  Every year brings more cursing and sex to childrens' eyes and ears, and calls it 'comedy.'  Personally, I would call these shows 'attacks' on Christian values.  But that's just me...

[buzorro]

Secularism Shows Its True Satanic Colors

...The article debunks statistics that say fatherless children are five times as likely to live in poverty and commit crime, nine times as likely to drop out of school, and 20 times as likely to wind up in prison...

Satanism wants to prove that man is merely an animal and can be slaughtered without compunction...

http://www.henrymakow.com/illuminati_showing_their_satan.html

[Westville Girl]

Now that's a good example of what I'm talking about....I can read that article and say, "Well, that article can say whatever it wants, but I am very certain that my son is benefiting tremendously from having an adult male in his life, after some years without it....I think that's nonsense, saying dads are irrelevant!"  They have their opinion, I have mine; I don't feel attacked....

What scares me though is people assigning such things to Satan, therefore implying people of God are under attack from the Satan-driven nonbelievers.....Whether its Muslim clerics complaining about women showing their faces or Christians complaining about people with differing values, laws tend to get passed and some people usually die...