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Chrysler's Railroad
This could be a scandal of epic proportions and one that makes Nixon's Watergate or Clinton's Monica Lewinsky affair pale by comparison. Why was there neither rhyme nor reason as to which dealerships of the Chrysler Corporation were to be closed? Roll the clock back to the weeks just before Chrysler declared bankruptcy.
Chrysler, like GM, was in dire financial straights and federal government graciously offered to "buy the company" and keep them out of bankruptcy and "save jobs." Chrysler was, in the words of Obama and his administration, "Too big to fail," same story with GM.
The feds organized their "Automotive Task Force" to fix Chrysler and GM. Obama, in an act that is 100% unconstitutional, appointed a guy named Steve Rattner to be the White House's official Car Czar- literally, that's what his title is. Rattner is the liaison between Obama, Chrysler, and GM.
Initially, the national media reported that Chrysler had made this list of dealerships. That is not true. The Washington Examiner, Newsmax, Fox News and a host of other news agencies discovered that the list of dealerships was put together by the "Automotive Task Force" headed by no one other then Mr. Steve Rattner.
Now the plot thickens. Remember we said earlier that there was neither rhyme nor reason why certain dealerships were closed? Actually there's a very interesting pattern as to who was closed down. Again, on May 27, 2009, The Washington Examiner and Newsmax exposed the connection. Amazingly, of the 789 dealerships closed by the federal government 788 had donated money, exclusively, to Republican political causes, while contributing nothing to Democratic political causes. The only "Democratic" dealership on the list was found to have donated $7,700 to Hillary's campaign, and a bit over $2,000 to John Edwards. This same dealership, reportedly,
also gave $200.00 to Obama's campaign. Does that seem a little odd to you?
Steve Rattner, the guy who put the list together. Well he happens to be married to a babe named
Maureen White. Maureen happens to be the former national finance chairman of the Democratic National Committee.
As such, she would have access
To campaign donation records from everyone in the nation, Republican or Democrat.
But of course, this is just a wacky coincidence, we're certain.
Then comes another really wacky coincidence. On that list of dealerships being closed
down, a weird thing happed in Arkansas, NorthLouisiana, and Southern Missouri.
It seems that Bill Clinton's former White House Chief of Staff, Mack McClarty, owns a
Chain of dealership in that region, partnered with a fellow by the name of Robert Johnson.
Johnson happens to be founder of Black Entertainment Television and was a huge Obama
supporter and financier. These guys own a half dozen Chrysler stores under the company
title of RLJ-McClarty-Landers. Interestingly, none of their dealerships were ordered closed
not one- while all of their competing Chrysler/Dodge and Jeep dealership were!
Eight dealerships located near the dealerships owned by McClarty and Johnson were
ordered shut down. Thus, by pure luck, these two major Obama supporters now have virtual
monopoly on Chrysler sales in their zone. Isn't that amazing? Go look in The Washington
Examiner, the story's there, and it's in a dozen or so other web-based news organization,
this isn't being made up.
Now if you thought Chrysler was owned by Fiat, you are truly mistaken. Under the federal
court ruling, 65% of Chrysler is now owned by the federal government and the United Auto
Worker's Union- Fiat owns 20%. The other 15% is till privately owned and presumably will
be traded on the stock market. Obama smiles and says he doesn't want to run the auto
industry.
As horrifying as this is to comprehend, and being as how this used to be the United States
of America, it would appear that the president has the power to destroy private businesses
and eliminate upwards of 100,000 jobs, just because they don't agree with his political agenda.
This is Nazi Germany stuff, and it's happening right here, right now, in your back yard. There are
voices in Washington demanding an explanation, but the "Automotive Task Force" has released
no information to the public or any of the senators demanding answers for what has been done.
Keep your ear to the ground for more on this story. If you've ever wanted to make a difference
about anything in your life, get on the phone to your Senator or representative in the House and demand an investigation on this.
Benjamin Franklin had it right when he said, "All that's necessary for evil to triumph is for good
Men to do nothing."
Car Czar No More
An amazing thing happed as this story was going to press. Obama's Car Czar, Steve Rattner,
Resigned on July 13 and was promptly replaced by former steel workers union boss Ron Bloom. According to CBS News, Rattner left "to return to private life and spend time with his family."
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said, "I hope that he takes another opportunity to bring his
unique skills to government service in the future." By the way, Rattner is under investigation for
a multi-million dollar pay-to-play investment bank scandal in New York. Uh-oh! But, we're certain
that had nothing to do with his resignation. And, according to several news sources out there,
there are rumors he's being investigated for what could be pay-to-play scandal involving the
closing of Chrysler and GM dealerships. Really? Again, that couldn't have anything to with his
resignation- that's ridiculous! Like CBS said, this guy just wants to spend more quality time with
his family.
Obama has thirty-two personally appointed "czars" that answer to no one but him, all of whom are
acting without any Constitutional authority. But hey, we're sure they all have "unique skills," as Tim Geithner likes to say.
Al Plyler
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Interesting article. First appeared 3 days ago in the Washington Examiner, a paper owned by Republican billionaire Philip Anschutz. Here is the link to the original Opinion written by Mark Tapscott.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Furor-grows-over-partisan-car-dealer-closings-46261447.html
I am so leery of these types of things after all the untruths being bantered around that my question is .................is it true?
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What if it's published in a Republican owned newspaper. Do you only read what is in the NYT? etc . Are you saying because a Republican owns the paper then it's not true?
You seem to always take the side of the left. Have you ever called for an "
OPEN MIND
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Didn't Chrysler sell out to a European company a while back?
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Quote from: skiptown on September 08, 2009, 06:09:33 pm
What if it's published in a Republican owned newspaper. Do you only read what is in the NYT? etc . Are you saying because a Republican owns the paper then it's not true?
You seem to always take the side of the left. Have you ever called for an "
OPEN MIND
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Would that include you.....
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Quote from: DejaVu on September 08, 2009, 06:42:50 pm
Didn't Chrysler sell out to a European company a while back?
Yes but not 100% only about 20 % I think.
and GA for your information I open my mind and assess the situation with real facts and rehashing some ones old opinions. I like to think I make up my own mind and don't leave it to The MSM
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Well good for you and for your information so do I...............
It takes a lot of research to be informed today and just because my opinions differ from yours doesn't mean I am not informed and don't have an open mind. I am, however, careful that I am not so open minded my brains fall out.........how about you!....
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Quote from: skiptown on September 08, 2009, 03:29:40 pm
Chrysler's Railroad
This could be a scandal of epic proportions and one that makes Nixon's Watergate or Clinton's Monica Lewinsky affair pale by comparison. Why was there neither rhyme nor reason as to which dealerships of the Chrysler Corporation were to be closed? Roll the clock back to the weeks just before Chrysler declared bankruptcy.
Chrysler, like GM, was in dire financial straights and federal government graciously offered to "buy the company" and keep them out of bankruptcy and "save jobs." Chrysler was, in the words of Obama and his administration, "Too big to fail," same story with GM.
The feds organized their "Automotive Task Force" to fix Chrysler and GM. Obama, in an act that is 100% unconstitutional, appointed a guy named Steve Rattner to be the White House's official Car Czar- literally, that's what his title is. Rattner is the liaison between Obama, Chrysler, and GM.
Initially, the national media reported that Chrysler had made this list of dealerships. That is not true. The Washington Examiner, Newsmax, Fox News and a host of other news agencies discovered that the list of dealerships was put together by the "Automotive Task Force" headed by no one other then Mr. Steve Rattner.
Now the plot thickens. Remember we said earlier that there was neither rhyme nor reason why certain dealerships were closed? Actually there's a very interesting pattern as to who was closed down. Again, on May 27, 2009, The Washington Examiner and Newsmax exposed the connection. Amazingly, of the 789 dealerships closed by the federal government 788 had donated money, exclusively, to Republican political causes, while contributing nothing to Democratic political causes. The only "Democratic" dealership on the list was found to have donated $7,700 to Hillary's campaign, and a bit over $2,000 to John Edwards. This same dealership, reportedly,
also gave $200.00 to Obama's campaign. Does that seem a little odd to you?
Steve Rattner, the guy who put the list together. Well he happens to be married to a babe named
Maureen White. Maureen happens to be the former national finance chairman of the Democratic National Committee.
As such, she would have access
To campaign donation records from everyone in the nation, Republican or Democrat.
But of course, this is just a wacky coincidence, we're certain.
Then comes another really wacky coincidence. On that list of dealerships being closed
down, a weird thing happed in Arkansas, NorthLouisiana, and Southern Missouri.
It seems that Bill Clinton's former White House Chief of Staff, Mack McClarty, owns a
Chain of dealership in that region, partnered with a fellow by the name of Robert Johnson.
Johnson happens to be founder of Black Entertainment Television and was a huge Obama
supporter and financier. These guys own a half dozen Chrysler stores under the company
title of RLJ-McClarty-Landers. Interestingly, none of their dealerships were ordered closed
not one- while all of their competing Chrysler/Dodge and Jeep dealership were!
Eight dealerships located near the dealerships owned by McClarty and Johnson were
ordered shut down. Thus, by pure luck, these two major Obama supporters now have virtual
monopoly on Chrysler sales in their zone. Isn't that amazing? Go look in The Washington
Examiner, the story's there, and it's in a dozen or so other web-based news organization,
this isn't being made up.
Now if you thought Chrysler was owned by Fiat, you are truly mistaken. Under the federal
court ruling, 65% of Chrysler is now owned by the federal government and the United Auto
Worker's Union- Fiat owns 20%. The other 15% is till privately owned and presumably will
be traded on the stock market. Obama smiles and says he doesn't want to run the auto
industry.
As horrifying as this is to comprehend, and being as how this used to be the United States
of America, it would appear that the president has the power to destroy private businesses
and eliminate upwards of 100,000 jobs, just because they don't agree with his political agenda.
This is Nazi Germany stuff, and it's happening right here, right now, in your back yard. There are
voices in Washington demanding an explanation, but the "Automotive Task Force" has released
no information to the public or any of the senators demanding answers for what has been done.
Keep your ear to the ground for more on this story. If you've ever wanted to make a difference
about anything in your life, get on the phone to your Senator or representative in the House and demand an investigation on this.
Benjamin Franklin had it right when he said, "All that's necessary for evil to triumph is for good
Men to do nothing."
Car Czar No More
An amazing thing happed as this story was going to press. Obama's Car Czar, Steve Rattner,
Resigned on July 13 and was promptly replaced by former steel workers union boss Ron Bloom. According to CBS News, Rattner left "to return to private life and spend time with his family."
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said, "I hope that he takes another opportunity to bring his
unique skills to government service in the future." By the way, Rattner is under investigation for
a multi-million dollar pay-to-play investment bank scandal in New York. Uh-oh! But, we're certain
that had nothing to do with his resignation. And, according to several news sources out there,
there are rumors he's being investigated for what could be pay-to-play scandal involving the
closing of Chrysler and GM dealerships. Really? Again, that couldn't have anything to with his
resignation- that's ridiculous! Like CBS said, this guy just wants to spend more quality time with
his family.
Obama has thirty-two personally appointed "czars" that answer to no one but him, all of whom are
acting without any Constitutional authority. But hey, we're sure they all have "unique skills," as Tim Geithner likes to say.
Al Plyler
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson
It's called politics. The Dems learned something about dirty tricks from the last administration. "This could be a scandal of epic proportions". Are you serious? You mean epic as in breaking laws, ignoring the constitution, torture, warrantless wiretapping etc, etc, etc.
By the way where were you when the AG was firing those prosecutor's?
"As horrifying as this is to comprehend". By now I know you are only kidding. I guess you forgot the smiley.
"This is Nazi Germany stuff, and it's happening right here, right now, in your back yard". Ain't politics something else.
"If you've ever wanted to make a difference
about anything in your life, get on the phone to your Senator or representative in the House and demand an investigation on this." Yeah they always get a kick out the voters "demanding" something.
You Repukes are a laugh a minute
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According to Snopes, this is false.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/chrysler.asp
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Quote from: Guardian Angel on September 08, 2009, 03:57:42 pm
Interesting article. First appeared 3 days ago in the Washington Examiner, a paper owned by Republican billionaire Philip Anschutz. Here is the link to the original Opinion written by Mark Tapscott.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Furor-grows-over-partisan-car-dealer-closings-46261447.html
I am so leery of these types of things after all the untruths being bantered around that my question is .................is it true?
Thank you Tech Guy. I tried log on to Snopes to check it out the other day and couldn't find anything.......
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How do we know Snopes is always correct?
Where were you when Clinton's AG sacked his bunch? (works both ways)
Go back and read who the g'ment wiretapped. It wasn't people from down the street it was people that they thought might be gona blow you up along with a bunch more.
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For the Democrat-owned dealerships, 31 out of 120 were shut down. Comparing those numbers, we found that 25.7% of Republican dealerships were schedule to be closed while 25.8% of Democrat ones were.
That difference is utterly insignificant. Thus, the data indicate that the Chrysler closings did not systematically favor Democrats.
If political bias affected the plant closing, then it might also have differentially impacted dealers in states that are dominated by Republicans. The data do not indicate the presence of a "blue state bias" either. In states that voted for Obama, 25.1% of the Chrysler dealerships were tagged to be closed. In Republican states, that number was also 25.1%.
The fact that those numbers are identical is something of a smoking gun. It seems impossible that they would match perfectly unless the key decision makers did indeed consider political affiliation when making their decisions, choosing to shut down exactly the same proportion of Democratic and Republican dealers. This choice might have helped Chrysler avoid creating a political controversy, but it does suggest that noneconomic factors played a role at the margin.
Chrysler has defended its closing selections. On June 12, testifying before the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, Jim Press, a deputy CEO for the company, explained that although some of the closed dealerships may have been profitable, it was not new Chrysler sales that made them so. Of the 789 discontinued dealers, 84% sold more used than new vehicles, and 44% also sold competing brands.
Given that the political percentages matched so perfectly, it seems likely that some dealers were closed despite the fact that they were more profitable (or less unprofitable) than dealers of the opposite political party. However, absent data on the profitability of the individual dealerships, it is impossible to say whether this bias hurt Democrats or Republicans at the margin.
Given the extraordinary lengths the Obama administration has gone to defend the interests of the unions, among his biggest political backers, it was quite possible that they would have done the reverse, and penalized dealers that backed Republicans in the last election.
The data indicate, however, that the charge that dealer closings were political motivated is baseless.
Obama and his team are innocent.
Source:
http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/29/obama-chrysler-automotive-task-force-aei-republican-opinions-contributors-dealerships.html
So...the Obama team actually went to great lengths to be fair.
I am so sick of all the hate.
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I'll second that....................
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If this president makes it through his first term, I'll be very surprised. The hate that is being intentionally driven towards him will produce the perfect crazed wacko with a plan...and some dumb luck. The death threats are getting worse.
They didn't show Michelle much during the speech...but I swear I caught a look that said she was worried...apprehensive....scared? I don't know.....something.
I just found this...
Obama receives 30
threats per day
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