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« on: April 16, 2010, 02:15:47 pm »

Tea party rally draws hundreds in Champaign; crowd smaller in Danville

Thu, 04/15/2010 - 7:00pm | The News-Gazette

CHAMPAIGN – Greg Tempel of rural Sadorus says he is fed up with the country's direction.

"I'm tired of the government robbing us and spending money we do not have," said Tempel, who carried a sign reading, "God Bless America." "We need some responsible people running this country."

Tempel was one of more than 550 people who turned out at sunny West Side Park on Thursday afternoon for the Champaign Tea Party's Tax Day Rally, commemorating the day when federal income taxes are due.

Many of the participants carried signs or banners, waved flags and sang songs to mark the event, and some children came to the rally dressed in Revolutionary War-period costumes.

In Danville, Nancy Bates and Kim Leverenz took time over Thursday’s lunch hour to attend a tea party protest at Lincoln Park in Danville because they are frustrated with government.

They joined more than 125 others who gathered for the two-hour Tax Day Tea Party event that featured a lineup of speakers, including local Tea Party activists and candidates for political office.

At the gathering at Lincoln Park, retired police officer Joe Tharp encouraged everyone to support  conservative candidates for office, whether they be Democrats or Republicans, and encouraged everyone to get out and vote.

He spoke out against many of the labels that have been attached to the tea party movement, except one, “angry.”

“I don’t know about you, but I blew past angry and reached enraged long ago,” Tharp said.

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For such a nice day it sure doesn't sound like much of a turnout. You have to wonder why that is.

IMHO most people know they are being bombarded with propaganda from both sides and they're not listening to any of it.
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2010, 04:21:25 pm »

Probably because there are so few people in Danville who actually work and or ambitious enough to attend anything. Danville is becoming known for the city of hand outs. Why protest when you are handed everything. Be cutting off your supply if you do. And our Government has helped to cause this. Sorry I am one of the frustrated tax payers that sees no end to this mess.
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2010, 05:41:57 pm »

I watched Chris Matthews last night as he interviewed two Tea Party members.  It was interesting and he used a lot of the statistics in this article.  No surprises here...........

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002529-503544.html

I didn't see anything in the article (might have missed it) but I believe Chris said 40% are birthers.  Anyway, he did point out that those who claimed to be Independant said they usually tend to vote Republican......and amost none of them voted for Obama!  They claim there is no racial overtones but one look at the signs proves otherwise.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2010, 06:44:51 pm »

For such a nice day it sure doesn't sound like much of a turnout. You have to wonder why that is.

I'll 'enlighten' you as to why I wasn't there.  I was working.  You see, having to work for a living I have this huge tax burden that supports all of those who don't work for a living, as well as building and maintaining a global empire.


IMHO most people know they are being bombarded with propaganda from both sides and they're not listening to any of it.

Both sides?  That would be the top 3% vs. the rest of us?

Anyway, he did point out that those who claimed to be Independant said they usually tend to vote Republican......

An 'Independent' voter usually does not have a candidate listed as 'Independent' to vote for.

.....and amost none of them voted for Obama!

Exclamation point?!

Here's one of your fellow Barack-believers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TswMeHnh2cA&feature=channel
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2010, 07:39:32 pm »

There was a huge tea party rally in a park not far from my house last Sat. A young man who I heard on radio many times before the primary election was the leader of this meeting. He ran on a Republican ticket to be named a candidate for Gov. In the local newspapers last week it was said that Mr. Andrew and I apologize, I can't pronouce or spell his last name, was leading this rally in an effort to have an independent audit of the State of Illinois $$$. Where is the money going?

As a working taxpayer, how could I argue with that premise? I haven't liked Quinn since BEFORE he was gov and like him even less since he has been the gov.

I didn't go to the rally. I had plenty to do on Sat. However I saw lots of video on TV and pix/text in the newspapers. Every sign I saw was against President O'bama. I am very worried about the direction this Country seems to be headed, but writing horrid things about the President is going to do what?

From what I could figure out about the rally, audit of the State of Illinois was pretty far back on their agenda. That might have been a lead to get 'normal' people to the rally. A lot of radical crybabies had their say and turned away a lot of people who might have been drawn to their side if there weren't so many 'crazies' in the crowd. Where do people come up with such junk to spout as truth?

Voice of Reason people. Throwing out wild accusations having no basis in fact isn't gonna foster change.
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2010, 09:10:10 pm »

Where do people come up with such junk to spout as truth?

Voice of Reason people. Throwing out wild accusations having no basis in fact isn't gonna foster change.

Please be more specific...what 'junk?'  What 'wild accusations having no basis in fact' were being made?
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2010, 11:31:58 pm »

Place of birth,  (posters depicting birth certificates outside US), posters stating President is a Nazi, Stuffed monkeys and other symbols of Racism. Ideology be darned, how can we take anyone seriously who is making their point with false allegations and possible racism?

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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2010, 10:11:26 am »

A few years ago when 'Ahhh-nold' became Governor of California, a lot of his fans wished he could be President.  Then some DC talking heads ran with the idea and supported amending the US Constitution to allow foreign-born citizens to  hold the highest office.  The issue finally died down but the idea was planted in the minds of many Americans.

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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2010, 05:03:46 pm »

  I agree with Buzz. Tea party people have to work so others can enjoy the "Free Party" The tea party is under intense attack & many want to portray it as a "Gangster Gov't." organization. You can find nuts in any party.

  I feel the tea party movement is just a bunch of taxpayers who are fed up with corrupt gov't.by both parties. The media says they don't really have a nat'l.spokesperson but I'm not sure they need one. These people are going to speak at the voting booth & they are scaring both parties. They are a creation by both parties who have ignored the wants of the people.

  Gov't.is here to serve the people,not the gov't.
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2010, 08:28:35 pm »

My feeling is the Ron Paul people started the Tea Parties and the Neoconservatives in the Republican party hijacked them. I thinks there's a good majority of people who don't have a problem with a civil debate about reduced government, fiscal responsibility, freedom, liberty and antiwar.....and that's what the Ron Paul Tea Parties were about....to start out with, but now they seem to have this problem with spitting on elected officials, death threats, throwing bricks through windows and screeching about socialism and birth certificates and blaming and hating Obama for everything that was a result of 8 years under Bush that allowed the wealth of this country to be sucked dry...and to me that's just ignorant. A decent living...a standard of living was stolen from the working and middle class. There's your real transfer of wealth. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Under Bush the rich got the tax cuts, the corporations got tax cuts or just flat out hid their profits, and Wall Street and the Banksters screwed over their working and middle class customers with insider trading, junk bond, and CDS. And...there's a lot I don't like about what Obama hasn't done so far...but really...it looks to me like Obama is trying to get some of the wealth back to where it came from in the first place.

I want no part of a Tea Party like this...we're all human beings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ik4f1dRbP8&feature=channel
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2010, 08:44:36 pm »

Those people have no compassion.  They are filled with hate.   God bless the man with Parkinson's.
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2010, 11:59:55 am »

 DJ,

 I agree with what you said about Pres.Bush. His motto was "Take from the needy & give to the greedy!"
I don't go to "Tea Party" events. I am with the "Fed Up" party. As far as a party of hate,this depends on ones viewpoint.

 I hate that gov't.has become so corrupt. My own opinion is you could indict the whole bunch under the "Rico Statues" I was all for gov't.run health care until the public option was removed. No matter what pres.Obama says it is business as usual in Washington. Those against the health care bill we taken into the backroom & subjected to the "Bully Pulpit tactics"

 Members of congress were either given sweetheart deals or threatened with their removal from commitees,or closure of military bases & revoking of funds. The election of Scott Brown in Mass.tells me the public is just plain fed up. Our govt.has been hijacked. Where is honest Abe when you need him? I feel we could use a few hundred in govt.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2010, 09:38:47 pm »

Good points DJ, GA and MM. It is the hatred and exxagerations that turn me away from the organized groups. It seems nothing can be done the 'right' way because of politics in both parties. They all start campaigning for reelection the week after the last election.
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2010, 11:25:25 am »

I guess what I'm trying to get across is that some of these so called Tea Parties should be scrutinized for who and what they are representing, especially the ones supported by FOX news, which in IMO, is THE propaganda arm of the Neoconservative wing of the Republican party. And another thing, when the Republican Neoconservative pundits of Fox news claim that CNBC’s Rick Santelli is the 'Founding Father of of the Tea Pary" that's just a load of crap because they damned well know better. This Santelli guy is a Wall Street insider who was involved in derivatives trading himself and he didn't start spouting off about Tea Parties until Feb. of 2009. Anyone that was part of the old Commercial News forum and this one knows that Buz and I posted many times about the Ron Paul Tea Parties long before 2009. During the debates all the Republicans running with the exception of Ron Paul supported the neoconservative ideology and not the constitutional conservative ideology of Ron Paul. As shown very well in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKITUOl0NBc&feature=player_embedded

Fox news did everything they could to keep Ron Paul out of the debates, so what does that tell you. And now they are claiming they are the supporters of the Constitution and are Libertarians?Huh...that's a joke, where the hell was Fox news when Bush Jr. was tossing the Constitution out the window and saying it was just an old piece of paper? The Republican party has been totally fractured and hijacked by Neoconservatives who planned the takeover of our foreign policy after Bush Senior lost his 2nd term and Rupert Murdoch had a very important part in all of it. (See info on the Project For a New American Century)

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Origins and Agenda Before establishing PNAC, neoconservatives and their allies among hardline nationalists, including Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, began aggressively promoting ideas meant to replace the militant anticommunism that dominated U.S. policy during much of the Cold War. A key step in this process was the 1995 establishment of the Weekly Standard  by two scions of the neoconservative movement—William Kristol (son of Irving) and John Podhoretz (son of Norman). Together with Fred Barnes, a former correspondent for The New Republic, they secured funding from media mogul Rupert Murdoch to support the magazine, which quickly replaced Commentary as the high-profile outlet of neoconservative ideas.


If Buz and others believe all the Tea Parties are created equal without examining the agenda behind the party or protest then that's their choice. Honestly, I almost can't blame you guys because it's become increasingly hard to know who is representing what when it comes Tea Parties (or just politics in general) because of the players themselves. You have Sarah Palin supporting Ron Paul's son Rand and then you have Rudy Gulliani endorsing Rand Paul's opponent Trey Grayson for Senator.  IMHO Ron Paul and his son Rand really dropped the ball and should never have accepted Palin's endorsement because she's as much responsible for the Obama hate, racism, fear-mongering and pushing a U.S. militaristic global agenda, as any of the neoconservatives in the party and now she's actually been employed by FOX. I think more and people are truly fearful and dissatisfied with the direction our country is going in, but at the same time becoming aware that there is so much agenda driven propaganda being spewed out there by both parties that it's impossible to know who or what to support, and some people, myself included, are choosing to become non-participant in any of it. Like a lot of people I tend to vote for the person because I have some conservative leanings (i.e. gun control) as well as some more liberal ones (social safety nets). We are all human beings with different needs and we can't all be placed in one of two boxes and that's what seems to be going on. I personally believe there is a deeper agenda going on and it is that this whole political mess has been purposely created to keep the masses divided and it's seems to be working quite well....but that's another story.

One more thing before I get off my soap-box. I just wish people understood the NeoCoservative agenda and those who have been involved in the highest echelons of pushing the ideology. If you don't understand what a NeoConservative is...you owe it to yourself to find out so make sure it's something you're comfortable supporting. There's plenty of information out there and this is just one source. http://antineoconservative.com/


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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2010, 11:46:56 am »

Finally, I get to say 'Amen!' first...

Remember my repeating Bob Dylan's advice?...'don't follow leaders'

My voting policy at the national level has always been 'never vote Repub or Dem, it only encourages them.'  A wasted vote?  BOTH parties are corporate- controlled and the corporations, in turn, are controlled by a handful of international bankers (think Rothchilds).  We've been warned of this for a couple of hundred years, but until the internet made it possible for the masses to find the truth, those who sought to 'enlighten' were ignored, shunned, or demonized by the the media, which has become a tool for those in control. 
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